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- > Date: Tue, 24 Mar 92 09:46:21 PST
- > From: Jonny Goldman <jonathan@think.com>
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- Jonny,
-
- This is relevant to the WAIS-FTP work Jim is doing.
-
- Unfortunately none of the WAIS crowd could get to discussions at the IETF -- though
- John Curran represented the WAIS side. Those discussions were very interesting.
-
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- The data model of WAIS (documents in databases) could be deconstrained to allow
- documents themselves to be or contain lists of documents, and for lists of
- documents to point to things other than documents in the same database.
-
- This is the way the second part can work. Normally, a search returns a list of
- doc-ids, each one (basically) like
-
- /usr/local/lib/wais/mydatabase/fred/myfile.txt
-
- which is in fact a filename. There's a load of other stuff in there which we can
- ignore for now. What a WAIS search needs to be able to do, when you are pointing
- to files, is to return a pointer to a file in FTP say. We do that in two steps.
- First, we recognise that that id is local to the conext of a wais server on host
- myhost and port myport. When the server returns that string, the client
- uses knowledge of the context in which it was quoted to exapnd that to
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- wais://myhost.dom.net:myport/usr/local/lib/wais/mydatabase/fred/myfile.txt
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- This is a refernece you can quote to anyone as it makes sense anywhere. No context.
- I called it a UDI but we'll have to change the name. Document Access Token maybe.
- It's like Brewster's proposal but extendable to other protocols. [Yes, WAIS is a
- good protocol but there are others. Including name servers and directories which
- will be needed for long-lived but movable documents.]
-
- Now suppose one day a server returns a doc-id INCLUDING the protocol, host, etc.
- For example, your WAIS FTP engine (like the ARCHIE WAIS) returns what are basically
- pointers to files. Just now, because of the constraints of the model, it has to
- return a part of a file within the database. Suppose we change that, so that
- in your case it just returns a doc-id which specifies anonymous ftp access, like:
-
- file://otherhost.com/pub/doc/mydoc.txt
-
- The client has a general retrieval engine which can accept doc-ids in many domains
- -- not just WAIS. That allows it to go out over a different protocol to retrieve
- the object.
-
- This is the way WWW and Gopher work. They are open systems -- you can link into
- any other system within reason. That's why the fuss about universal document
- identifiers. Maybe the WAIS people would to incorporate them -- that is, just
- make sure that the normal WAIS server return things which are -- like the one
- above -- special cases of the more general syntax.
-
- I haven't had much comment from the WAIS side about the UDIs, but I'd like to have
- some. (file://info.cern.ch/pub/www/doc/udi1.ps was background for the IETF
- discussions.) We plan a small working group hacking out the details before an RFC
- is submitted.
-
-
- > I like the idea of generalized interfaces, customized servers.
-
- You bet!
-
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- - Tim BL
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